. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current. >> this is "the bill press show." >> 25 minutes after the hour. should the united states be conducting drone warfare around the world and should the united states be killing american citizens whom they suspect of being involved in a terrorist organization on foreign soil without any trial, would youithout any due process, with the president playing judge jury, judge, and executioner. it's hard to get numbers on how many people have been killed. my column last may on this issue, i quoted in my column the new america foundation survey that are looking at pakistan between 1785, 1,785 and 2,771 individuals have been killed in pakistan by remote controlled drones, of whom 1, -- 1,492 and 2,300 were militants. in other words, the non-militant or civilian deaths or collateral deaths were 17%. >> that's pretty high. 17% collateral including 174 children. what do you say then? oops? >> i mean at some point, you have to